Gary MacDougal on Obama, Blagojevich, Kjellander and McKenna: Cable and Streaming
Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal: ... maybe I wish I had recognized him because he [Barack Obama] was helpful in all of that. I consider him a nice guy, an intelligent guy, but extremely liberal and I don’t think that’s what we want in a President.
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Gary MacDougal: ... I like Andy McKenna [current State GOP Chairman] but he has a full time job other than this. He is a very quiet fellow who is very thoughtful but not an attack dog and we need an attack dog ...
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Gary MacDougal:... Karl Rove would probably like to see [Patrick Fitzgerald]leave his job because [Rove's] friend, Bob Kjellander, is one of the ones that is likely to be indicted. But, if Patrick Fitzgerald, who is one of my heroes, stays in that [U. S. Attorney, N.D., IL] job, I believe that the odds are overwhelming that Blago will be indicted because Tony Rezko, who is Blagojevich's close confidant, has been indicted and is ...[See here for Fitzgerald's bizarre low ranking by some at the Department of Justice]
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This Week's suburban edition of "Public Affairs," airing in the Chicago metro suburbs, features former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal discussing and debating Gov. Blagojevich's approach to spending, taxes and health care; MacDougal's suggestion that the State GOP develop a "Contract with Illinois"; assessments of Barack Obama, Tony Rezko, Bob Kjellander and much, more with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz.See, below, for the Public Affairs suburban airing schedule. You may also [Go Here to watch this week's suburban show with Gary MacDougal, next week's suburban "Public Affairs," rumble between Cook County Commissioners Peraica [R] and Quigley [D] as well as other shows with such notables as Obama, McCain, Giuliani, Barrett, Syverson and many others on your computer; you can drag the dial on the bottom of the screen to watch only portions of the thirty minute shows; trouble accessing our cinema page on your computer? Try I-Tunes: the same Public Affairs shows are also available there].
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Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal will be the featured guest on the Monday, March 26, 2007 [8:30 pm, Cable Ch. 21] City of Chicago edition of "Public Affairs."
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The "Public Affairs," cinema page gives you a choice of more than twenty-five episodes of “Public Affairs," to watch on your computer including this week's suburban show with Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal . The cinema page also has Next Week's sparring match with Cook County Commissioners Peraica and Quigley, recent shows with Rep. Fritchey, Ralph Martire, Metropolitan Planning Council President MarySue Barrett, Phantom of the City Council--Brendan Reilly, State Rep. Paul Froehlich, as well as interviews, discussions or remarks with or by U. S. Senators John McCain and Barack Obama, former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani and many, many more pols on our video podcast page[Go Here to Watch the Shows on your computer; you can drag the dial on the bottom of the screen to watch only portions of the thirty minute shows].
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Gary MacDougal, former State GOP Chairman and currently on the Board of UPS, debates and discusses with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz Governor Rod Blagojevich's proposed "Bold New Budget," Gross Receipts Tax [perhaps the biggest tax boost in Illinois' History], State Subsidized Health Insurance, the lease of the lottery and issuance of bonds to fund the State run pensions; market alternatives to the Governor's Health Insurance proposal and school choice-school vouchers as an alternative to raising taxes for public education; the Governor's failure to disclose subpoenas he has received; a potential indictment by the U. S. attorney of Governor Blagojevich; potential candidates to run against Senator Durbin; expanding the Republican Party; a contract with Illinois from the Republican Party [similar in concept to the Republicans' 1994 Contract with America, the State GOP's need for a Leader who is an attack dog and much, much more.
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Jeff Berkowitz: …it’s a serious charge to make. You are saying you are confident that Governor Rod Blagojevich is going to be indicted sometime prior to finishing his second term, is that right?
Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal: To me, that is a good bet to make. Assuming Patrick Fitzgerald stays in his job—now there are a lot of folks who would like him to leave his job-- and I am sure there is a lot of pressure. Karl Rove would probably like to see him leave his job because his friend, Bob Kjellander, is one of the ones that is likely to be indicted. But, if Patrick Fitzgerald, who is one of my heroes, stays in that [U. S. Attorney, N.D., IL] job-- I believe that the odds are overwhelming that Blago will be indicted because Tony Rezko, who is Blagojevich's close confidant, has been indicted and is being squeezed and he would rather not spend time all those extra years in the slammer. [See here for Fitzgerald's relatively low ranking by some at the Department of Justice]
Jeff Berkowitz: …Did you just say that Bob Kjellander would be indicted, too?
Gary MacDougal: I think the chances of him being indicted are quite good. He was mentioned as Individual K using a rake-off on placing pension fund investment money. That’s the game that they have been playing—the bi-partisan sleaze Combine that I used to talk about when I was the [State GOP] Party chairman, and I think they’re finally starting to get them, now.
Jeff Berkowitz: Now, Kjellander is still …the National Republican Committeeman from Illinois, right?
Gary MacDougal: He is. He is one of our three Republican leaders in the State, which is an acute source of embarrassment to those of us who would like Republicans to be above the fray and to have the right credentials in order to attack the corruption the Democrats have, but it’s very hard to attack them when it is bi-partisan.
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Jeff Berkowitz: …Where is the Republican Party in Illinois and elsewhere to present …[issues] in the way that you are?
Gary MacDougal: Missing in action. I like Andy McKenna [State GOP Chairman for more than the last two years] but he has a full time job other than this. He is a very quiet fellow who is very thoughtful but not an attack dog and we need an attack dog out there.
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Jeff Berkowitz: You mentioned Barack Obama… how well do you know Barack. Do you know him in the context of what you were doing in the Jim Edgar Administration?
Gary MacDougal: I know him reasonably well. In fact, he tells me he has my book [“Make a Difference”] in his library. When I last saw him, he said, “you know, the one thing about that book, you mention [state senator Steve] Rauschenberger, but you didn’t mention me and I was the guy on the other side of the aisle that helped get that legislation through that created the Department of Human Services.”
Jeff Berkowitz: So, Barack would say he helped “Make a Difference,” as well as Steve Rauschenberger—
Gary MacDougal: He did.
Jeff Berkowitz: Now, why didn’t you--
Gary MacDougal: And, I didn’t recognize him enough—
Jeff Berkowitz: Well, should you have. Were you not balanced in doing that, in recognizing the Republican but not the Democrat?
Gary MacDougal: Well, in hindsight, maybe I wish I had recognized him because he [Obama] was helpful in all of that. I consider him a nice guy, an intelligent guy, but extremely liberal and I don’t think that’s what we want in a President.
Jeff Berkowitz: In what sense, though, I mean is he more liberal than Hillary Clinton? Is he more liberal than John Edwards?
Gary MacDougal: I think the two of them are extreme liberals.
Jeff Berkowitz: The two of them? You mean Hillary?
Gary MacDougal: Hillary and Barack Obama.
Jeff Berkowitz: What about John Edwards? Is he in that category?
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Gary MacDougal, as is airing this week on Public Affairs in 35 Chicago Metro suburbs [See below for the suburban airing schedule] and as will be airing on Monday, March 26, 2007 [8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21, CANTV] on the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs. The show was recorded on March 11, 2007. You may also[watch the show with former State GOP Chairman MacDougal here].
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In twenty-five North Shore, North and Northwest suburbs, the "Public Affairs," show airs every Tuesday night in the regular weekly Public Affairs slot, 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19 or 35, as indicated, below.
In ten North Shore suburbs, the Public Affairs show airs three times each week in its regular slots at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, as indicated, below. ******************************************************
The suburban episode of Public Affairs with guest Gary MacDougal airs Tonight :
at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Buffalo Grove, Elk Grove Village, Hoffman Estates, parts of Inverness, Lincolnwood, Morton Grove, Niles, Northfield, Palatine, Rolling Meadows and Wilmette
And at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 35 in Arlington Heights, Bartlett, Glenview, Golf, Des Plaines, Hanover Park, Mt. Prospect, Northbrook, Park Ridge, Prospect Heights, Schaumburg, Skokie, Streamwood and Wheeling.
and this week on Monday night, Wednesday night and Friday night at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Bannockburn, Deerfield, Ft. Sheridan, Glencoe, Highland Park, Highwood, Kenilworth, Lincolnshire, Riverwoods and Winnetka.
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Jeff Berkowitz, Show Host/Producer of "Public Affairs," and Executive Legal Recruiter doing legal search can be reached at JBCG@aol.com
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Gary MacDougal: ... I like Andy McKenna [current State GOP Chairman] but he has a full time job other than this. He is a very quiet fellow who is very thoughtful but not an attack dog and we need an attack dog ...
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Gary MacDougal:... Karl Rove would probably like to see [Patrick Fitzgerald]leave his job because [Rove's] friend, Bob Kjellander, is one of the ones that is likely to be indicted. But, if Patrick Fitzgerald, who is one of my heroes, stays in that [U. S. Attorney, N.D., IL] job, I believe that the odds are overwhelming that Blago will be indicted because Tony Rezko, who is Blagojevich's close confidant, has been indicted and is ...[See here for Fitzgerald's bizarre low ranking by some at the Department of Justice]
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This Week's suburban edition of "Public Affairs," airing in the Chicago metro suburbs, features former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal discussing and debating Gov. Blagojevich's approach to spending, taxes and health care; MacDougal's suggestion that the State GOP develop a "Contract with Illinois"; assessments of Barack Obama, Tony Rezko, Bob Kjellander and much, more with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz.See, below, for the Public Affairs suburban airing schedule. You may also [Go Here to watch this week's suburban show with Gary MacDougal, next week's suburban "Public Affairs," rumble between Cook County Commissioners Peraica [R] and Quigley [D] as well as other shows with such notables as Obama, McCain, Giuliani, Barrett, Syverson and many others on your computer; you can drag the dial on the bottom of the screen to watch only portions of the thirty minute shows; trouble accessing our cinema page on your computer? Try I-Tunes: the same Public Affairs shows are also available there].
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Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal will be the featured guest on the Monday, March 26, 2007 [8:30 pm, Cable Ch. 21] City of Chicago edition of "Public Affairs."
*************************************************
The "Public Affairs," cinema page gives you a choice of more than twenty-five episodes of “Public Affairs," to watch on your computer including this week's suburban show with Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal . The cinema page also has Next Week's sparring match with Cook County Commissioners Peraica and Quigley, recent shows with Rep. Fritchey, Ralph Martire, Metropolitan Planning Council President MarySue Barrett, Phantom of the City Council--Brendan Reilly, State Rep. Paul Froehlich, as well as interviews, discussions or remarks with or by U. S. Senators John McCain and Barack Obama, former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani and many, many more pols on our video podcast page[Go Here to Watch the Shows on your computer; you can drag the dial on the bottom of the screen to watch only portions of the thirty minute shows].
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Gary MacDougal, former State GOP Chairman and currently on the Board of UPS, debates and discusses with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz Governor Rod Blagojevich's proposed "Bold New Budget," Gross Receipts Tax [perhaps the biggest tax boost in Illinois' History], State Subsidized Health Insurance, the lease of the lottery and issuance of bonds to fund the State run pensions; market alternatives to the Governor's Health Insurance proposal and school choice-school vouchers as an alternative to raising taxes for public education; the Governor's failure to disclose subpoenas he has received; a potential indictment by the U. S. attorney of Governor Blagojevich; potential candidates to run against Senator Durbin; expanding the Republican Party; a contract with Illinois from the Republican Party [similar in concept to the Republicans' 1994 Contract with America, the State GOP's need for a Leader who is an attack dog and much, much more.
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Jeff Berkowitz: …it’s a serious charge to make. You are saying you are confident that Governor Rod Blagojevich is going to be indicted sometime prior to finishing his second term, is that right?
Former State GOP Chairman Gary MacDougal: To me, that is a good bet to make. Assuming Patrick Fitzgerald stays in his job—now there are a lot of folks who would like him to leave his job-- and I am sure there is a lot of pressure. Karl Rove would probably like to see him leave his job because his friend, Bob Kjellander, is one of the ones that is likely to be indicted. But, if Patrick Fitzgerald, who is one of my heroes, stays in that [U. S. Attorney, N.D., IL] job-- I believe that the odds are overwhelming that Blago will be indicted because Tony Rezko, who is Blagojevich's close confidant, has been indicted and is being squeezed and he would rather not spend time all those extra years in the slammer. [See here for Fitzgerald's relatively low ranking by some at the Department of Justice]
Jeff Berkowitz: …Did you just say that Bob Kjellander would be indicted, too?
Gary MacDougal: I think the chances of him being indicted are quite good. He was mentioned as Individual K using a rake-off on placing pension fund investment money. That’s the game that they have been playing—the bi-partisan sleaze Combine that I used to talk about when I was the [State GOP] Party chairman, and I think they’re finally starting to get them, now.
Jeff Berkowitz: Now, Kjellander is still …the National Republican Committeeman from Illinois, right?
Gary MacDougal: He is. He is one of our three Republican leaders in the State, which is an acute source of embarrassment to those of us who would like Republicans to be above the fray and to have the right credentials in order to attack the corruption the Democrats have, but it’s very hard to attack them when it is bi-partisan.
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Jeff Berkowitz: …Where is the Republican Party in Illinois and elsewhere to present …[issues] in the way that you are?
Gary MacDougal: Missing in action. I like Andy McKenna [State GOP Chairman for more than the last two years] but he has a full time job other than this. He is a very quiet fellow who is very thoughtful but not an attack dog and we need an attack dog out there.
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Jeff Berkowitz: You mentioned Barack Obama… how well do you know Barack. Do you know him in the context of what you were doing in the Jim Edgar Administration?
Gary MacDougal: I know him reasonably well. In fact, he tells me he has my book [“Make a Difference”] in his library. When I last saw him, he said, “you know, the one thing about that book, you mention [state senator Steve] Rauschenberger, but you didn’t mention me and I was the guy on the other side of the aisle that helped get that legislation through that created the Department of Human Services.”
Jeff Berkowitz: So, Barack would say he helped “Make a Difference,” as well as Steve Rauschenberger—
Gary MacDougal: He did.
Jeff Berkowitz: Now, why didn’t you--
Gary MacDougal: And, I didn’t recognize him enough—
Jeff Berkowitz: Well, should you have. Were you not balanced in doing that, in recognizing the Republican but not the Democrat?
Gary MacDougal: Well, in hindsight, maybe I wish I had recognized him because he [Obama] was helpful in all of that. I consider him a nice guy, an intelligent guy, but extremely liberal and I don’t think that’s what we want in a President.
Jeff Berkowitz: In what sense, though, I mean is he more liberal than Hillary Clinton? Is he more liberal than John Edwards?
Gary MacDougal: I think the two of them are extreme liberals.
Jeff Berkowitz: The two of them? You mean Hillary?
Gary MacDougal: Hillary and Barack Obama.
Jeff Berkowitz: What about John Edwards? Is he in that category?
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Gary MacDougal, as is airing this week on Public Affairs in 35 Chicago Metro suburbs [See below for the suburban airing schedule] and as will be airing on Monday, March 26, 2007 [8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21, CANTV] on the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs. The show was recorded on March 11, 2007. You may also[watch the show with former State GOP Chairman MacDougal here].
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In twenty-five North Shore, North and Northwest suburbs, the "Public Affairs," show airs every Tuesday night in the regular weekly Public Affairs slot, 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19 or 35, as indicated, below.
In ten North Shore suburbs, the Public Affairs show airs three times each week in its regular slots at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, as indicated, below. ******************************************************
The suburban episode of Public Affairs with guest Gary MacDougal airs Tonight :
at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Buffalo Grove, Elk Grove Village, Hoffman Estates, parts of Inverness, Lincolnwood, Morton Grove, Niles, Northfield, Palatine, Rolling Meadows and Wilmette
And at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 35 in Arlington Heights, Bartlett, Glenview, Golf, Des Plaines, Hanover Park, Mt. Prospect, Northbrook, Park Ridge, Prospect Heights, Schaumburg, Skokie, Streamwood and Wheeling.
and this week on Monday night, Wednesday night and Friday night at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Bannockburn, Deerfield, Ft. Sheridan, Glencoe, Highland Park, Highwood, Kenilworth, Lincolnshire, Riverwoods and Winnetka.
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Jeff Berkowitz, Show Host/Producer of "Public Affairs," and Executive Legal Recruiter doing legal search can be reached at JBCG@aol.com
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