Tuesday, January 09, 2007

Froehlich to Cong. Roskam and RNC:"Don't immigrant bash."

Links added and revisions made at 7:30 pm on Tuesday evening
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Jeff Berkowitz: …What do you want him to do when Peter Roskam runs for re-election?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Don’t immigrant bash. Don’t demagogue that issue.

Jeff Berkowitz: You think they [Roskam and McSweeney] were doing that?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: I think the commercials that the RNC was running demagogued the issue, absolutely.
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Jeff Berkowitz: So, is it fair to say that there was a Southern Strategy when the Republicans were voting for the Civil Rights Act in 1964?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Not that early. I think that came really in 1968 when Nixon came back [after his defeat for President in 1960 and his loss for Governor of California in 1962, saying to the press, “You are not going to have Richard Nixon to kick around anymore.”] But, don’t forget we had Goldwater as the standard bearer in 1964—who voted with Al Gore’s father and the southern Democrats against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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This Week's suburban edition of "Public Affairs," airing in the Chicago metro suburbs, features State Rep. Paul Froehlich [R-Schaumburg] debating and discussing with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz, among other issues, what the Republican Party has been doing and should be doing to attract a larger share of the minority vote. See, below, for the Public Affairs suburban airing schedule. You may also [Watch the show with Froehlich here].
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Another Speaker Hastert?

State Rep. Paul Froehlich [R-Schaumburg], like former Speaker Denny Hastert, was a public high school school teacher and wrestling coach before he was he appointed to his State Rep. position. Paul Froehlich, Schaumburg Township Republican Committeeman, is now in his 5th year as a State Representative.

State Rep. Paul Froehlich [see here] debates and discusses with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz the problems of the State GOP, including its relatively small minority vote and whether it should modify its positions and style regarding illegal immigration, capital punishment, in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, "driver certificates," for illegal immigrants, subsidized down payments and housing interest costs for illegal immigrants, video-taped interrogations, removing the moratorium on capital punishment and increases in Illinois' minimum wage. Also discussed is whether Dr. Martin Luther King developed his positions based on what was "right," or on their political feasibility, and whether the Republicans should follow that approach of Dr. King, should support a tax swap and an increase in taxes and/or should support school vouchers-school choice, especially in the minority communities.
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State Rep. Paul Froehlich [R-Schaumburg]will be the featured guest on the Monday, Jan. 15, 2007 [8:30 pm, Cable Ch. 21] City of Chicago edition of "Public Affairs."
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Bashing Immigrants or border control: Roskam, McSweeney and the RNC


Jeff Berkowitz: You’re talking about Peter Roskam-Tammy Duckworth [in the 6th CD] and--

Rep. Paul Froehlich: David McSweeney-Melissa Bean [in the 8th CD]

Jeff Berkowitz: And, you’re saying who was trying to inflame

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Well, the RNC was running these commercials equating illegal immigrants with [Osama] Bin Laden, as if these poor people—

Jeff Berkowitz: Were they actually saying that?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Well, when you run two pictures—one has Osama Bin Laden; the other has some poor Mexicans coming in, or central Americans coming in across the border.

Jeff Berkowitz: Was their point that you need control over your borders or not only will you have illegal immigrants come in, but you may have terrorists come in? Is that a legitimate point to make?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: It is. But, you better be careful how you make it, unless you don’t care about being perceived perhaps as racists.

Jeff Berkowitz: But, if you do care, you are saying that you have to make that point with some sensitivity? Some finesse?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: That’s correct. And, without anything that could be construed as appealing to racist views.
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Jeff Berkowitz: …What do you want him to do when Peter Roskam runs for re-election?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Don’t immigrant bash. Don’t demagogue that issue.

Jeff Berkowitz: You think they [Roskam and McSweeney] were doing that?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: I think the commercials that the RNC was running demagogued the issue, absolutely.

Jeff Berkowitz: The RNC.

Rep. Paul Froehlich: And, even Oberweis admits that his commercials went a little over the top two years earlier. Even he admits it after the fact.

Jeff Berkowitz: But, there is nothing wrong with Oberweis pointing out, if he is accurate, how many illegal immigrants come into the U.S?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: No, No.

Jeff Berkowitz: And, if they would fill Soldier Field, it is okay for him to say that, right?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Well, I think if you’re trying to exploit racial fears, that is the wrong way for the Republican Party to go. [State Rep. Froehlich and show host Berkowitz neglected, however, to note that McSweeney's opponent in the 8th CD, incumbent Democrat Congresswoman Melissa Bean, supported designating all illegal immigrants as felons-- a designation that Republican 8th CD challenger David McSweeney and the majority of House Republicans opposed].
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Civil Rights and the Southern Strategy: Goldwater, Gore, Republicans and Buckley

Jeff Berkowitz: …Your Op Ed essayin the Chicago Tribune [Dec. 19]…your argument is that the Republicans were the party of justice; they were the party that defeated slavery; they were the party of civil rights legislation after slavery was abolished in the U. S. and now, what are you saying? That the African-American community might say [to the Republicans] what have you done for us lately? Is that your point?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: And, that’s the rule in politics. You cannot rest on your laurels from previous centuries and expect people to support you…the Republican Party has a proud history when it comes to civil rights up until about the mid-1960s.

Jeff Berkowitz: That was the southern strategy that nationally was adopted by Richard Nixon. Is that what you are talking about?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: That’s right.

Jeff Berkowitz: And what was that southern strategy?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: …as the Democratic Party began shedding its past ties to Jim Crow laws and segregation and beginning to champion civil rights—at least the non-southern wing of the Democratic Party did—what we saw was that whites that wanted to resist that started to switch parties…and Republicans became the party of conservatism in the South …and became identified as a Party that was resistant to civil rights, didn’t want to see integration and was critical of affirmative action and—

Jeff Berkowitz: to be fair, if we are talking the 60s and 70s, that’s really before affirmative action got going [at least in its more extensive version of the late 70s, 80s and 90s] , and the Civil Rights Act was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 [which] as I recall, got a lot of Republican support in the Congress.

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Oh, it did, it did.

Jeff Berkowitz: So, is it fair to say that there was a Southern Strategy when the Republicans were voting for the Civil Rights Act in 1964?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Not that early. I think that came really in 1968 when Nixon came back [after his defeat for President in 1960 and his loss for Governor of California in 1962, saying to the press, “You are not going to have Richard Nixon to kick around anymore.”] But, don’t forget we had Goldwater as the standard bearer in 1964—who voted with Al Gore’s father and the southern Democrats against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Jeff Berkowitz: Yes, but interesting, you know…perhaps his [Goldwater’s] most famous saying?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: I do. I do.

Jeff Berkowitz: What would that be?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Well, “Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue,”
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Jeff Berkowitz: …so, it is interesting you should bring up Goldwater because Goldwater’s saying, at least, would make him an ally of what you are talking about [justice for minorities]. Is that right?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Well, if he applied it…to civil rights and racial issues.

Jeff Berkowitz: But, to be fair to Barry Goldwater, who once was known as the conscience of the conservatives—what he was talking about I don’t think was in any way hostility to equal opportunity for all minorities: African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians—

Rep. Paul Froehlich: Right.

Jeff Berkowitz: It was distrust of federal government power. And, that was [and is] shared by many intellectual conservatives, e.g., William F. Buckley. Jr.—when I had the opportunity to interview William F. Buckley… and asked him, looking back, was there anything he might change or do differently, one of the things he said …was he didn’t realize how much of a federal imprint [or footprint] was necessary in the South to change the way things were. So, Buckley …might agree with you that the Republicans-- perhaps for philosophical reasons-- opposed some of the civil rights legislation—not because they didn’t want civil rights for all people in the U. S., but because they were distrustful [of the feds] and once you gave the power to the federal government to do some good, they might also do some bad. But, looking back, that might sound like a nice abstract argument, but if you are African-American-- all you see is that that person voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, is that your point?

Rep. Paul Froehlich: And, I think people would say that it [that philosophical view] conveniently benefited the [Republican] Party politically. So, adopting that stance about State’s Rights-
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State Rep. Paul Froehlich [R], as is airing this week on Public Affairs in 35 Chicago Metro suburbs [See below for the suburban airing schedule] and as will be airing on Monday, Jan. 15, 2007 [8:30 pm on Cable, CANTV] on the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs. The show was recorded on Dec. 27, 2006. You may also[watch the Paul Froehlich program here].
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