Tuesday, July 20, 2004

Dated July 19, 1:00 am, revised July 20, 12:00 am

Obama (State's rights?), Dillard, civil unions and same sex marriage.

Jeff Berkowitz: As we sit here on July 18, one person who is being mentioned quite a bit to run against you is State Senator Kirk Dillard (R- Hinsdale). You, of course, know Kirk- he was in the State Senate two years before you were, right?

Barack Obama: Yes, I think Kirk preceded me by a couple of years. We have a terrific relationship. Kirk and I have sponsored several pieces of legislation together. My first bill, a piece of ethics legislation that I passed with Kirk Dillard, and [Senator] Paul Simon helped, a dear friend and colleague. That was really the cornerstone for subsequent ethics legislation; we worked on racial profiling together.

Berkowitz: Death penalty reform.

Obama: Death penalty reform. And, so, Kirk and I have a very good relationship.

Berkowitz: Good friends.

Obama: And, if he decided to run, I think he would be an excellent choice by the GOP.
Jeff Berkowitz: Same sex marriage. You favor civil unions but you oppose same sex marriage.

Barack Obama: That is exactly right.

Berkowitz: But you have kind of talked [as if] this could evolve during the next few years as people discuss, consensus

Obama: That is going to be up to the American people.

Berkowitz: Could you see yourself favoring same sex marriage five years from now?

Obama: That is not what I said. What I said was that this was a classic example of an issue that we are going to have to determine democratically on a state-by-state basis. And, I think some states are going to have one perspective and other states are going to have other perspectives.
State Senator and U. S. Senate candidate Barack Obama, interviewed on “Public Affairs,” recorded on July 18, 2004 and scheduled to air in the suburbs during the week of July 26 and in the City of Chicago on Monday, August 2 at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21.