Monday, December 04, 2006

Can Dorothy Brown beat Mayor Daley on School Vouchers?

Dorothy Brown: My thing is that we need to make sure that we are not taking our eye off of the prize, taking our eye off of their school system as a whole.

Jeff Berkowitz: I guess I beg to differ with you. The eye is on the kids who aren’t learning how to read, right?
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Jeff Berkowitz: And if we can teach them how to read in a private school with public funds better than we can do that public school, then you’ve got to be with me on trying that. You’ve got to be with me, right?

Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County Dorothy Brown: Well, certainly, we can take a look at that, Jeff.
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Watch "Public Affairs," tonight throughout the City of Chicago [at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21, CANTV] and this week in the Chicago metro suburbs with Chicago Mayor Candidate Dorothy Brown. See, below, for the Public Affairs suburban airing schedule. You may also[Watch the Dorothy Brown show here].

Brown, first elected to the position of Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County in 2000, after beating more establishment candidates in the Democratic Primary, was re-elected to that position in 2004. Dorothy Brown and Dock Walls, both African-Americans, are the only two announced candidates for Mayor of Chicago in the Feb. 27, 2007 election, but rumor has it that Mayor Richard M. Daley, who along with his father [Richard J. Daley] has held that position for 38 of the last 51 years, will file his nominating petitions for re-election next week.

Brown debates and discusses the issues with show host and legal recruiter Jeff Berkowitz. Topics include endemic fraud in City, Cook County and Illinois Government, giving minorities the short end of the stick in Chicago on education and economic development, whether Mayor Daley is doing more governing in the last two months than he has done in the last 17 years, Pay to Play in Chicago, whether bringing the Olymics to Chicago is good for Chicagoans, school vouchers-school choice, the living wage and its effects on employment, Mayor Daley's potential responsibility, in his role as State's Attorney of Cook County, for the Birge related torture of individual citizens arrested or detained and much, much more. This show was recorded on November 19, 2006.
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See, below, for the Public Affairs suburban airing schedule.
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Next Monday night's City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs will feature State Rep. Julie Hamos [D-Evanston] at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21 [CANTV] . State Sen. Steve Rauschenberger [R-Elgin] will be the featured guest on next week's suburban edition of "Public Affairs."
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The "Public Affairs," podcast page gives you a choice of more than twenty-five episodes of “Public Affairs," including our recent shows with Chicago Mayor Candidate Dorothy Brown, State Sen. Steve Rauschenberger [R-Elgin] and State Rep. Julie Hamos [D-Evanston], , as well as interviews, discussions or remarks with or by U. S. Senators John McCain and Barack Obama, former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Governor Rod Blagojevich, Sen. del Valle [D-Chicago], Ald. Joe Moore, current State Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka, 27th District Senator Elect Matt Murphy [R-Palatine], newly re-elected 8th CD Congresswoman Melissa Bean , 9th CD Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, Cook County Commissioners Tony Peraica [R-Riverside] and Forrest Claypool [D-Chicago] and many, many more pols on our video podcast page[Watch here].
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Jeff Berkowitz:… If I say that I can come up with a process that would improve those kids’ reading ability—those two hundred thousand [in the Chicago Public Schools] who can’t read at grade level, and you say to me, “Are they going to learn in a public school or a private school?”, I am going to say to you, “Why does it matter?” As long as they learn how to read, do you care whether they learn in a private or a public school? Your daughter went to what, Howard University?

Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County Dorothy Brown: Yes.

Jeff Berkowitz: Private school, right?


Dorothy Brown: Yes.

Jeff Berkowitz: Good school?

Dorothy Brown: It’s a very good school.

Jeff Berkowitz: She did well. Did you say, “Well, it’s not so good, because it’s private?”

Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County Dorothy Brown: Oh, no. I’m not suggesting that private schools aren’t good.

Jeff Berkowitz: The point is, if you can give people the opportunity—

Dorothy Brown: What I’m suggesting—

Jeff Berkowitz: To learn how to read—

Dorothy Brown: Is that we need to use public funds for public schools.

Jeff Berkowitz: No! why not public funds for public kids? That is, for all kids. If that kid, who’s not learning how to read—here, we’ve got to do this. Just give me a minute here. Here’s our backpack. We’re spending eleven thousand dollars per kid, per year, on average. On average [in the Chicago Public Schools].

Dorothy Brown: On average.

Jeff Berkowitz: That might be your point. On some kids we’re spending more, and on some kids, less.

Dorothy Brown: On some, a lot less.

Jeff Berkowitz: But still, that’s a lot of money. Eleven thousand dollars per kid, per year. Not as much as in some ritzy neighborhoods in the suburbs, like where we are, but still, we should be able to do something with it. You put that eleven thousand dollars in that backpack. You take the four hundred and twenty thousand parents of the four hundred and twenty thousand kids and give them four hundred and twenty thousand backpacks. You strap that backpack on the kid and if the kid and the parent decide they could do better at a private school, at learning how to read, for instance, out goes the kid, out goes the backpack and out goes the cash. But if they stay there, if they like their public school-- the backpack stays there, the kid stays there and the money stays there… Now, do you want to take that backpack and give those kids that school voucher, that school choice. Do you want to do that, Dorothy Brown?

Dorothy Brown: Oh, Jeff—

Jeff Berkowitz: It won’t bite. Go ahead. Take that backpack. It won’t bite you.

Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County Dorothy Brown: I will take the backpack.

Jeff Berkowitz: See. Good for you. There you go. And, give those backpacks to the parents. That might elect you.

Dorothy Brown: But we are taking our eye off the Prize.

Jeff Berkowitz: I’m told that school vouchers are very popular in the minority community, both with Hispanics and with blacks. They would like that choice. I don’t usually help people. I’m trying to give you a little help. I’m helping you get elected.

Dorothy Brown: My only thing is this, Jeff. We can certainly look at vouchers, and the various kinds of programs—charter schools, etc.

Jeff Berkowitz: We can look at vouchers?

Dorothy Brown: Yes, absolutely.

Jeff Berkowitz: Because it might make them better [in school] and you want to help these kids.

Dorothy Brown: You might need a hybrid of things.

Jeff Berkowitz: My point is--

Dorothy Brown: My thing is that we need to make sure that we are not taking our eye off of the prize, taking our eye off of their school system as a whole.

Jeff Berkowitz: I guess I beg to differ with you. The eye is on the kids who aren’t learning how to read, right?

Dorothy Brown: The eye off the prize, which is our children, yes.

Jeff Berkowitz: And if we can teach them how to read in a private school with public funds better than we can do that in a public school, then you’ve got to be with me on trying that. You’ve got to be with me, right?

Circuit Court Clerk of Cook County Dorothy Brown: Well, certainly, we can take a look at that, Jeff.

Jeff Berkowitz: There you go. That’s good enough. We’ve got to move on.

Dorothy Brown: We can certainly take a look at that.

Jeff Berkowitz: I’m going to quit while I’m ahead.
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Dorothy Brown, Clerk of the Circuit Court of Cook County [D] and candidate for Mayor of Chicago, as is airing tonight in the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs [8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21] and as is airing this week on Public Affairs in 35 Chicago Metro suburbs [See below for the suburban airing schedule]. You may also[Watch here].
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Above transcript drafts prepared by Amy Allen, who also does research for “Public Affairs,” and has her own political blog [See here].
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In twenty-five North Shore, North and Northwest suburbs, the "Public Affairs," show with Dorothy Brown airs tomorrow night in the regular weekly Public Affairs slot, 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19 or 35, as indicated, below.

In ten North Shore suburbs, the show with Dorothy Brown is also airing in its regular airing slot at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Ch. 19 this week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, as indicated, below.
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The suburban episode of Public Affairs, featuring Chicago candidate for Mayor Dorothy Brown, airs tomorrow night:

at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Buffalo Grove, Elk Grove Village, Hoffman Estates, parts of Inverness, Lincolnwood, Morton Grove, Niles, Northfield, Palatine, Rolling Meadows and Wilmette

And at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 35 in Arlington Heights, Bartlett, Glenview, Golf, Des Plaines, Hanover Park, Mt. Prospect, Northbrook, Park Ridge, Prospect Heights, Schaumburg, Skokie, Streamwood and Wheeling.

and tonight, Wednesday night and Friday night at 8:30 pm on Comcast Cable Channel 19 in Bannockburn, Deerfield, Ft. Sheridan, Glencoe, Highland Park, Highwood, Kenilworth, Lincolnshire, Riverwoods and Winnetka.
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Jeff Berkowitz, Show Host/Producer of "Public Affairs," and Executive Legal Recruiter doing legal search can be reached at JBCG@aol.com
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