The Daleys and why voters vote?
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Jeff Berkowitz: If somebody is paid $5 to vote a certain way, they are going to vote that way.
Professor Paul Green: And, if they vote the other way, they don’t get the $5.
Berkowitz: And, so that’s their interest?
Paul Green: Well, no one else is offering them anything else.
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Tonight's City of Chicago edition of “Public Affairs,” features Paul Green, Roosevelt University Professor, Director of Policy Studies [until August 15] and WGN Political Pundit [“720 at 720” on Wednesday mornings, 7:20 am, with Spike O'Dell]. The show with Green airs throughout the City of Chicago [in the regular “Public Affairs,” City of Chicago time slot] tonight at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21 [CANTV]. See here for more about the topics discussed on this week’s show with Professor Paul Green, as well as a partial transcript of the show. **********************************************
Next week’s guest on the City of Chicago edition of “Public Affairs,” is Ald. Manuel (“Manny”) Flores, [D- 1st Ward, Chicago.] . Ald. Flores is this week's featured guest on the suburban edition of "Public Affairs."
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Another partial transcript of the show with Paul Green is included, below.
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Dr. Paul Green received his undergraduate degree from the University of Illinois, an M.A. from the University of Chicago and a Ph. D. from the University of Chicago in urban studies. He is the Director of the School of Policy Studies and Arthur Rubloff Professor of Policy Studies at Roosevelt University in Chicago, Illinois. For as long as I can remember, Professor Green has been the always amiable and quick witted moderator of public policy breakfast and lunch programs for the City Club of Chicago, which is perhaps the best deal in town for those interested in Public Policy and good food [Maggiano’s].
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Professor Paul Green: Let me just give you a fact. There were people living as late as the 1960s in Chicago who had basement apartments that were dirt…plumbing that was outdoor plumbing…the whole idea of high rise was to be an upgrade. It didn’t work out—
Jeff Berkowitz: There was no effort to integrate the communities. And, you know that, I know that and everybody watching this show knows that, right?
Paul Green: There was no effort to integrate the communities with or without public housing.
Jeff Berkowitz: Well, shouldn’t he [Mayor Richard J. Daley] have been a leader, on that score? Shouldn’t a true, great Mayor, shouldn’t he have done more toward integration?
Paul Green: And, he would have been defeated. In 1960—
Berkowitz: Well, leaders—leaders figure out a way to get elected and do good things, right. If you are going to say he was a great Mayor, I mean you talked about [the fact that] he ran a good machine?
Paul Green: I, uh, he ran a-- he would call it a political organization. Let me give you another fact…1963…This is a fact that you could check out in that book [the new edition of the collection of essays Professor Green co-edited with Professor Melvin Holli—The Mayors: The Chicago Political Tradition], Richard J. Daley lost the white vote in the City of Chicago. He was called all kinds of names—as being far too liberal for the City of Chicago. He was bailed out by the black vote. He lost the white ethnic vote. A man [Mayor Richard J. Daley] who is considered now to be the personification of racism and all the other things.
Berkowitz: What does that tell us?
Paul Green: It tells us—
Berkowitz: It tells us that there was a machine in the Black community that could turn out the vote.
Paul Green: It also tells us—
Berkowitz: Turn out the vote for the guy [Mayor Richard J. Daley]. Is that saying that he is a good guy?
Paul Green: That people vote their interest. And the voters—
Berkowitz: They always vote their interest? Or they kind of vote as the machine pushes them.
Paul Green: Well—
Berkowitz: If somebody is paid $5 to vote a certain way, they are going to vote that way.
Paul Green: And, if they vote the other way, they don’t get the $5.
Berkowitz: And, so that’s their interest?
Paul Green: Well, no one else is offering them anything else.
Berkowitz: Okay.
Paul Green: You underestimate people voting their interest.
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Dr. Paul Green, Roosevelt University Professor and WGN-AM Radio political pundit, recorded on April 17, 2005 and as is airing on the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs tonight, May 2 at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21.
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Jeff Berkowitz, Host and Producer of Public Affairs and an Executive Recruiter doing Legal Search, can be reached at JBCG@aol.com
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Jeff Berkowitz: If somebody is paid $5 to vote a certain way, they are going to vote that way.
Professor Paul Green: And, if they vote the other way, they don’t get the $5.
Berkowitz: And, so that’s their interest?
Paul Green: Well, no one else is offering them anything else.
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Tonight's City of Chicago edition of “Public Affairs,” features Paul Green, Roosevelt University Professor, Director of Policy Studies [until August 15] and WGN Political Pundit [“720 at 720” on Wednesday mornings, 7:20 am, with Spike O'Dell]. The show with Green airs throughout the City of Chicago [in the regular “Public Affairs,” City of Chicago time slot] tonight at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21 [CANTV]. See here for more about the topics discussed on this week’s show with Professor Paul Green, as well as a partial transcript of the show. **********************************************
Next week’s guest on the City of Chicago edition of “Public Affairs,” is Ald. Manuel (“Manny”) Flores, [D- 1st Ward, Chicago.] . Ald. Flores is this week's featured guest on the suburban edition of "Public Affairs."
**********************************************
Another partial transcript of the show with Paul Green is included, below.
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Dr. Paul Green received his undergraduate degree from the University of Illinois, an M.A. from the University of Chicago and a Ph. D. from the University of Chicago in urban studies. He is the Director of the School of Policy Studies and Arthur Rubloff Professor of Policy Studies at Roosevelt University in Chicago, Illinois. For as long as I can remember, Professor Green has been the always amiable and quick witted moderator of public policy breakfast and lunch programs for the City Club of Chicago, which is perhaps the best deal in town for those interested in Public Policy and good food [Maggiano’s].
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Professor Paul Green: Let me just give you a fact. There were people living as late as the 1960s in Chicago who had basement apartments that were dirt…plumbing that was outdoor plumbing…the whole idea of high rise was to be an upgrade. It didn’t work out—
Jeff Berkowitz: There was no effort to integrate the communities. And, you know that, I know that and everybody watching this show knows that, right?
Paul Green: There was no effort to integrate the communities with or without public housing.
Jeff Berkowitz: Well, shouldn’t he [Mayor Richard J. Daley] have been a leader, on that score? Shouldn’t a true, great Mayor, shouldn’t he have done more toward integration?
Paul Green: And, he would have been defeated. In 1960—
Berkowitz: Well, leaders—leaders figure out a way to get elected and do good things, right. If you are going to say he was a great Mayor, I mean you talked about [the fact that] he ran a good machine?
Paul Green: I, uh, he ran a-- he would call it a political organization. Let me give you another fact…1963…This is a fact that you could check out in that book [the new edition of the collection of essays Professor Green co-edited with Professor Melvin Holli—The Mayors: The Chicago Political Tradition], Richard J. Daley lost the white vote in the City of Chicago. He was called all kinds of names—as being far too liberal for the City of Chicago. He was bailed out by the black vote. He lost the white ethnic vote. A man [Mayor Richard J. Daley] who is considered now to be the personification of racism and all the other things.
Berkowitz: What does that tell us?
Paul Green: It tells us—
Berkowitz: It tells us that there was a machine in the Black community that could turn out the vote.
Paul Green: It also tells us—
Berkowitz: Turn out the vote for the guy [Mayor Richard J. Daley]. Is that saying that he is a good guy?
Paul Green: That people vote their interest. And the voters—
Berkowitz: They always vote their interest? Or they kind of vote as the machine pushes them.
Paul Green: Well—
Berkowitz: If somebody is paid $5 to vote a certain way, they are going to vote that way.
Paul Green: And, if they vote the other way, they don’t get the $5.
Berkowitz: And, so that’s their interest?
Paul Green: Well, no one else is offering them anything else.
Berkowitz: Okay.
Paul Green: You underestimate people voting their interest.
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Dr. Paul Green, Roosevelt University Professor and WGN-AM Radio political pundit, recorded on April 17, 2005 and as is airing on the City of Chicago edition of Public Affairs tonight, May 2 at 8:30 pm on Cable Ch. 21.
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Jeff Berkowitz, Host and Producer of Public Affairs and an Executive Recruiter doing Legal Search, can be reached at JBCG@aol.com
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